![Which Internet Lead Referral Company Provides the Most Value?]()
by Diane Masson | Sep 9, 2012
When all the smoke and thunder blows away, which company can provide me the best quality leads that will increase my occupancy immediately? Keep reading for the answer. I was shocked to find out in my research how many Internet leads a senior housing community has to go through in order to get two sales – the answer can be about 100!
This is my third article regarding researching senior housing Internet referral companies. All the major players do a pretty good job of differentiating themselves from each other. Some companies seem to do a better job of identifying and targeting qualified leads than others. Some have great web sites, live care advisors, blogs or have fantastic placement on the Internet. A majority of the legitimate leads tend to need some help with the activities of daily living.
Pay Per Move In – In talking with a lot of administrators, in a variety of senior housing options, they tend to shy away from paying an entire month of rent for a move-in. It is a big chunk of change and I have personally experienced several bad outcomes with this choice. One challenge was when we offered the 2nd month free to get move-ins. The Internet company received one months rent, we gave the 2nd month away for free and the residents moved out at the end of the 2nd month. Yes, it cost us money to have these people live at our assisted living community.
I have also had great results with pay-per-move-in in the past, including increasing sales by 10% per month with straight independent living or assisted living rental properties. The key was working the leads immediately, because the Internet lead company would send the same lead to 5 or more of my competitors. The retirement community who called the lead first won and he who followed up two or three times also won.
Monthly Subscription – Monthly subscription Internet leads are not as high quality, because no live person filters them. About the only advantage I can see, is your community will be included in the paid search field at the top or side of a Google search (within that referral source). This will run you about $150 or more a month for this benefit.
Pay Per Lead – The companies that provide pay-per-lead have a wide variety of outcomes depending on their level of filtering the leads. You will pay $35 to $50 per lead with results ranging from 2% to 8% turning into move-ins. This means that every 50 leads your company calls will turn into a sale in the worse case scenario. The average for one company was about 4% or one sale in every 25 leads. One company claimed that the best quality sales people could produce one sale out of every 12 leads. Why the discrepancy? They said that lead results were better for those sales forces that proactively used quick follow up when the lead was received and then continued with multiple attempts of connecting with the prospective resident. I have found this to be 100% true with those I coach.
So the bottom line is the better the sales people, the lower the cost per lead. Internet leads come in, then sales people are supposed to turn them into tours, so they can become sales and finally become a move-in. What can you do if your sales people don’t manage leads effectively and you need to increase your occupancy now? A couple ideas would be to hire a sales coach or have stricter monitoring and management of metrics to set goals in your sales lead tracking system, both of which would help to increase existing performance on all your leads.
Pay Per Tour – There’s a new model that I’ve recently come across, pay per tour, which seems to address the efficiency and ROI challenges of all the existing models. This model addresses the lead efficiency issue that I’ve seen with some companies managing Internet leads while getting a reasonable effective cost per move-in.
It’s a new program being launched by Seniors for Living and based on their preliminary data they show an average of a move-in for every 4 to 7 tours (depending on the community).
The cost is around $400 per tour, so if my sales people provided great tours, an Internet move-in would only cost me around $2000. This would save me the hardest and most time-consuming part of the sale process which is following up the lead and qualification to get to the tour. I have spent 14 years in senior housing and have trained hundreds of sales people on how to turn inquiries on the telephone into great senior living tours so I know what it takes to get to a tour.
This pay per tour sounds like it will be the best approach, particularly for those retirement communities with sales teams already spread thin from their other sales activities. As part of my researching for this blog series and speaking with Seniors for Living I have begun working with them on their advisor training to help them refine their process to generate a better tour and the best overall experience for prospects and communities. Since this is a new approach I’m eager to see how this works with wider use by more senior living communities.
I look forward to hearing your feedback on all these models. What’s your experience?
Diane Twohy Masson is the author of “Senior Housing Marketing – How to Increase Your Occupancy and Stay Full,” available for sale at Amazon.com. If your curiosity is piqued to inquire on Diane’s availability to speak at a senior housing conference (CCRC, independent living, assisted living, skilled nursing or memory care) – please call: 206-853-6655 or email diane@marketing2seniors.net. Diane is currently consulting in Southern California for Freedom Management Company, the proud debt-free owners of Freedom Village in Lake Forest and The Village in Hemet, California. For more information: Twitter: @market2seniors Web: www.marketing2seniors.net Blog: http://marketing2seniors.net/blog/
![Trying to Evaluate Senior Housing Internet Referral Choices?]()
by Diane Masson | Aug 27, 2012
Every one of us is so busy in senior living sales and marketing. Some of you are pure sales and others are juggling marketing with sales. With walk-ins, tours, and phone inquiries happening constantly, who has time to research Internet exposure and lead referral companies? Maybe I can help…I have been looking into this for a few weeks and have learned a lot.
You can do “Pay for Click,” which means you buy high placement for key words that show up in a Google search. Ever wonder how companies get in the colored box at the top of the screen with a Google search or have placement on the right hand side of your screen? Every time someone clicks on that link, you pay, no matter what. If someone is looking for a job, the phone number to your community to talk to a resident or simply click but have no interest, it can cost you 50 cents to $5.00 or more. When I looked into it, there were almost 400 versions of the keywords independent living, senior living and senior housing. The cost was going to be almost $1000 a month for a ten-mile radius. Are you kidding me? They had not even included key words such as assisted living, skilled nursing care or a Continuing Care Retirement Community yet!
Another easier choice for those of us in senior housing seems to be the Internet lead referral companies. They buy all the clicks and key words, so they take all the risk. Most of them have a live person talking to the inquiries, so by the time we get the lead at our community, we may have a viable person who is interested in our senior living community.
There are three main types of Internet lead referral companies:
- Pay after a move-in
- Pay-per-lead
- Monthly subscription
The quality varies through my experience depending on which company you select and your type of senior housing. There are pluses and minuses to all three choices. The plus to paying after a move-in is, obviously, paying for performance only. The minus is this can be the most expensive option with the cost generally being one month of rent. Pay-per-lead companies charge between $35-$45 a lead. The plus is that most of the companies have a person confirming which type of senior housing the prospect is interested in and making sure they understand it is private pay. The down side is most of them have around a 2% conversion rate into a sale. Monthly subscriptions can charge around $150 a month, so the cost is good, but they don’t have a live person filtering the leads, so you can receive a lot more garbage leads.
One benefit of all Internet referral companies is finding their sites in the paid search boxes on Google. People searching online have hit key words regarding senior housing and start exploring their options through Internet referral sources. You can add photos, videos, a description of your community, prices, floor plans and some Internet referral sources even link back to your website or your social media.
So what’s the purpose of adding Internet leads into your marketing mix? More people are finding senior housing online than ever before and when someone is doing a search online – you want to be found.
Check back in a couple of weeks and I will be sharing which Internet lead referral companies I believe are the most effective and the best value for the money spent.
Diane Twohy Masson is the author of “Senior Housing Marketing – How to Increase Your Occupancy and Stay Full,” available for sale at Amazon.com. If your curiosity is piqued to inquire on Diane’s availability to speak at a senior housing conference (CCRC, independent living, assisted living, skilled nursing or memory care) – please call: 206-853-6655 or email diane@marketing2seniors.net. Diane is currently consulting in Southern California for Freedom Management Company, the proud debt-free owners of Freedom Village in Lake Forest and The Village in Hemet, California. For more information: Twitter: @market2seniors Web: www.marketing2seniors.net Blog: http://marketing2seniors.net/blog/
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by Diane Masson | Aug 19, 2012
Many seniors or adult boomer children looking for housing struggle to understand the difference between selecting a month-to-month rental choice vs. selecting an entrance fee at a Continuing Care Retirement Community. I have seen people create excel spreadsheets in order to understand what may have better financial implications in the long run for their family member.
A couple of key question to ask yourself in your search for senior housing are:
- How long do you plan to live? (I know it’s a tough question, but are you living a healthy lifestyle now? The age of parents at death can be a small factor, but how you treat your body with exercise and eating healthy is considered a key to aging well now.)
- Do you have long-term care insurance? (Having it can be considered an asset, but it comes with an expensive monthly fee and some policies have limits of two or three years of maximum care in a skilled nursing center. Older policies do not include in-home care or assisted living, so check your policy.)
- Can your savings and assets survive, if you and/or your spouse needed assisted living or skilled nursing care for 5 or more years?
The average cost of Skilled Nursing Care on a national basis runs between $6,500 and month and $9,500 a month according to a national Metlife survey. Why is this cost important? Because this is a cost that can quickly wipe out your savings account.
Month-to-month retirement community rentals offer no protection for the future…what if you live there for eleven years and run out of assets? If you can’t make your monthly fee – you would be asked to leave period. There is no long-term contract with you. We have all read articles in the newspaper talking about someone spending $300,000 plus at a rental community over the years and then being turned away because they ran out of assets. You might be asking yourself – could this really happen to someone?
Well, my own mother ran out of her resources after living in a Continuing Care Retirement Community for eleven years. She had not anticipated living in a higher level of care for three plus years. It was horrible when her annuity and assets shrank and she was unable to pay the full monthly payment at her Assisted Living. The great news is that she was not asked to leave. Her Continuing Care Retirement Community in Seattle had never asked anyone to leave because of financial reasons. What a relief for my mom and my family…
Many Continuing Care Retirement Communities offer a guarantee of care for the rest of your life, if you outlive your resources. What incredible peace of mind this provides for residents and their family members. Yes, this guarantee comes with the price of an entrance fee and those vary nationally. I represent a Continuing Care Retirement community in California, whose entrance fees start at $55,000. What a reasonable price, it’s less than the cost of one year of Skilled Nursing Care… Plus, when a resident pays an entrance fee, the monthly fees at Continuing Care Retirement Communities tend to be much lower than month-to-month rentals.
What are your thoughts on rentals versus entrance fees?
Diane Twohy Masson is the author of “Senior Housing Marketing – How to Increase Your Occupancy and Stay Full,” available for sale at Amazon.com. If your curiosity is piqued to inquire on Diane’s availability to speak at a senior housing conference (CCRC, independent living, assisted living, skilled nursing or memory care) – please call: 206-853-6655 or email diane@marketing2seniors.net. Diane is currently consulting in Southern California for Freedom Management Company, the proud debt-free owners of Freedom Village in Lake Forest and The Village in Hemet, California. For more information: Twitter: @market2seniors Web: www.marketing2seniors.net Blog: http://marketing2seniors.net/blog/
![Do You Educate the Customer on Senior Housing & Healthcare Choices?]()
by Diane Masson | Jul 23, 2012
It’s always beneficial to become the customer’s friend by being a resource for all senior living information. Learn your market choices and share as much information as possible, so the senior or their family can make a good decision.
It’s always good to ask the prospect, if they have just started exploring their options or find out if they are further along into research mode. Seniors and baby boomer adult children, who are just starting out, often need some basic information. How you present it, depends on what senior housing option you represent. When people are making a move, it’s always a good idea to figure out the costs of future health care, home maintenance and services (such as dining, 24-hour emergency call system and housekeeping).
1) One option is for seniors to stay in their own home. Some seniors choose to live with children or have their adult children live with them. This is a great option if someone’s son or daughter is a repair person, great cook and willing to drive them to doctor appointments, when they are not able to drive.
2) Staying at home with home healthcare. Home healthcare can provide a qualified person who can help with medication management and assist with the activities of daily living. Costs average $21 an hour on a national basis, which can quickly turn into $15,000 a month with full time care.
3) Moving into a condo provides for most of the maintenance, repairs, home upkeep and yard work. It can come with home owner’s association (HOA’s) dues of $300 – $1500 a month.
4) Independent living – retirement communities, who offer one level of care, can have strict health requirements, but many communities are allowing in-home care to people’s apartments so they can remain in residence longer. In-home care averages $19 an hour nationally, so just 8 hours of help a day can add up to over $4700 a month. The $4700 a month would be in addition to the monthly rental fee. It varies by state, if the in-home care has licensing and trained staff requirements.
5) Independent living – retirement communities, who offer two levels of care, may or may not have stringent health requirements. If they offer both independent living and assisted living, they tend to be less strict, because they can provide services for two levels of care. The disadvantage is that independent seniors are living with frailer neighbors. Research the cost of independent living and the cost of assisted living (find out what is included with the rent – is any care included – or is care all added on separately?). These prices vary depending on how many meals and services are provided.
6) If seniors wait too long to move when they are independent, they can move directly into an assisted living community, where they can enjoy 3 meals a day and 24-hour care support. Some assisted living communities charge one all-inclusive rate and others charge extra for bathing assistance, medication management, incontinence care, etc. Assisted Living basic rent costs between $2100 and $5700 a month on a national level with bigger rooms and additional care costing more. In Washington State, I personally knew people that paid $9000 a month for heavy assisted living services.
7) Skilled nursing care or rehab is something that people never select as a choice. Typically something happened to the senior that caused a hospital stay and their doctor recommends that they recover in a Medicare certified skilled nursing care or rehabilitation center. This is 24-hour skilled nursing care and can be a short-term stay for a few weeks or a month. Long-term care residents typically cannot get out of bed on their own and live in this environment on a permanent basis. Costs can run nationally between $128 and $678 a day for semi-private room. I have typically seen daily costs in the mid-$200’s for a semi-private room and up to mid-$400 for a private suite on the West Coast.
8) Continuing care retirement communities (CCRC’s) have health and financial thresholds that must be met, in order to move-in. A large number of CCRC organizations, through their foundations, may offer a guarantee of care for the rest of the senior’s life. This can be a powerful choice, to know that if something happened to a senior’s finances that they would have care for life. CCRC’s typically offer independent living, assisted living and skilled nursing care, all on the same campus. A one time entrance fee is usually requested that can run anywhere from $60,000 to over $2 million. A percentage of the entrance fee can be refundable back to someone’s estate. There are many varieties of returnable options. The monthly fees of CCRC’s are typically lower than month-to-month rentals for the same square footage.
There are a variety of qualities for all the above choices. Learn your area’s choices and help be an educational resource to the customer. They will appreciate you more and hopefully select your retirement community. Encourage seniors to choose wisely, it’s not just about price, but the quality of services and care that are provided. A good question to ask a prospect would be: What senior housing option gives them the most peace of mind?
Every town, city and state has different pricing. My national price quotes came from: http://www.metlife.com/mmi/research/2011-market-survey-long-term-care-costs.html#findings
Diane Twohy Masson is the author of “Senior Housing Marketing – How to Increase Your Occupancy and Stay Full,” available for sale at Amazon.com. If your curiosity is piqued to inquire on Diane’s availability to speak at a senior housing conference (CCRC, independent living, assisted living, skilled nursing or memory care) – please call: 206-853-6655 or email diane@marketing2seniors.net. Diane is currently consulting in Southern California for Freedom Management Company, the proud debt-free owners of Freedom Village in Lake Forest and The Village in Hemet, California. For more information:Twitter: @market2seniorsWeb: www.marketing2seniors.netBlog: http://marketing2seniors.net/blog/
